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For me, stasis, scale, pattern have put the whole question of symmetry and asymmetry in abeyance.
I still use a grid. But now the grid encompasses conventional notation. The reason my music is notated is I wanted to keep control of the silence, when you hear it, you have no idea rhythmically how complicated that is on paper. It’s floating. On paper it looks as though it’s rhythm. It’s not. It’s duration.